From owner-nwchem-users Tue May 13 11:54:30 2003 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by odyssey.emsl.pnl.gov (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.5) id LAA26758 for nwchem-users-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 2003 11:40:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 13:38:27 -0500 (CDT) From: B Barnes Subject: Symmetry and ECP basis sets To: nwchem-users@emsl.pnl.gov Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-nwchem-users@emsl.pnl.gov Precedence: bulk Hello all, First a summary, then a difficult basis set question for developers at the end. A few days ago I wrote about problems with a benzenethiolate-gold structure, and how enabling or disabling symmetry usage in NWChem made the calculation converge to different electronic states and resulted in a drastically different absolute electronic energy, and different behavior in geometry optimizations. The mail is archived here: http://www.emsl.pnl.gov:2080/docs/nwchem/nwchem-support/2003/05/0004.NWChem_4.1_symmetry_electronic_states On the hunch of Ilias Sioutis (thanks!), I tried a different ECP basis set for gold. Apparently, the Stuttgart 1997 RSC ECP basis occassionally has problems. While I had previously tried (and had the same problem with) LANL2DZ, the 'CRENBL' and 'CRENBS' basis sets of Ross, Ermler, Christiansen, et al worked fine (produced well-behaved molecules with and without symmetry). Other groups have published work using the Stuttgart and LANL2DZ basis sets for molecules of this sort, but typically using DFT; the failure of those basis sets in our calculation was using MP2. So my question is, and this is important for future calculations and even as a footnote in a publication, *why* does this one particular ECP basis set work where the others fail? What is going on in NWChem such that it makes a difference whether symmetry is enabled, and why does the CRENBL basis set work better than the others? Is it possible there is a bug in NWChem causing this behavior? These problems only occur in SCF/MP2, not DFT. Example input file echoed below. thanks, Brian Barnes Start benz_Au_geom_Cs_3_2 echo charge 0 geometry noautosym noautoz units angstrom C -0.790404 -3.48425 0.00000 H -1.39723 -4.39504 0.00000 C -0.396098 -2.89186 -1.21149 H -0.696416 -3.33813 -2.16605 C 0.380862 -1.72119 -1.21987 H 0.690735 -1.27361 -2.17036 C 0.780818 -1.12259 0.00000 C 0.380862 -1.72119 1.21987 H 0.690735 -1.27361 2.17036 C -0.396098 -2.89186 1.21149 H -0.696416 -3.33813 2.16605 S 1.73384 0.361946 0.00000 Au -0.577377 1.75862 0.00000 end ecce_print ecce.out basis "ao basis" spherical print H library "cc-pVDZ" S library "cc-pVDZ" Au library "Stuttgart RSC 1997 ECP" C library "cc-pVDZ" END ECP Au library "Stuttgart RSC 1997 ECP" END set tolguess 1e-8 scf rhf nopen 0 maxiter 100 thresh 1e-8 end mp2 freeze core 8 end task mp2 energy