From owner-nwchem-users@emsl.pnl.gov Tue Feb 26 07:07:41 2008 Received: from odyssey.emsl.pnl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odyssey.emsl.pnl.gov (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m1QF7edY017892 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 07:07:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by odyssey.emsl.pnl.gov (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m1QF7d7t017891 for nwchem-users-outgoing-0915; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 07:07:39 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: odyssey.emsl.pnl.gov: majordom set sender to owner-nwchem-users@emsl.pnl.gov using -f X-Ironport-SG: OK_Domains X-Ironport-SBRS: 5.9 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAADS5w0eChDIkn2dsb2JhbACQYwEBAQEBBgQGCQgYgQ2bAw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,407,1199692800"; d="scan'208";a="44635952" Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20080226092612.056d70f8@yale.edu> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:05:26 -0500 To: nwchem-users@emsl.pnl.gov From: JR Schmidt Subject: Re: [NWCHEM] Spherical p-type orbitals In-Reply-To: <20080226080134.4uuveg2d0kw8gkko@webmail.scs.fsu.edu> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080225154701.0566dfa0@yale.edu> <47C3E2AA.1090504@st-andrews.ac.uk> <20080226080134.4uuveg2d0kw8gkko@webmail.scs.fsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) Sender: owner-nwchem-users@emsl.pnl.gov Precedence: bulk Thank you for the replies. Since the original question was a bit vague, let me clarify my motivation. In particular, I am interested in looking at a singlet-D oxygen atom (as a part of a larger system). For various reasons I explicitly need a single-reference method. If I am not mistaken, the p-orbital configuration for singlet-D oxygen should look like (using the notation Yl,m for the spherical harmonics), (Y1,-1)^2(Y1,0)^2 (or other degenerate combinations) Thus, in principle it looks like one can create a 'reasonable' single-reference description of singlet-D oxygen using spherical harmonic basis functions. However since Y1,0 = pz and Y1,-1 = px - i * py this state cannot be cannot be written in terms of px and py with purely real coefficients. For completeness, you CAN get a good description of singlet-D oxygen (using real coefficients) with two references if you don't care about L_z, by adding up two degenerate singlet-D states with different L_z: (Y1,-1)^2(Y1,0)^2 + (Y1,1)^2(Y1,0)^2 = [px^2pz^2] - [py^2pz^2] If you do a CISD using the Cartesian basis functions, this is qualitatively what you get. Unfortunately, it looks like my original question was a bit off the mark in that even the 'spherical' basis functions are not normal spherical harmonics, but solid harmonics (i.e. the combinations of Yl,m +/-Yl,-m that are taken to be purely real) and thus this WOULD give identical results with the Cartesian basis functions for the case of p-orbitals. It looks like I would need to use a special purpose code capable of dealing with spherical harmonics to do what I am looking for. (To reiterate, this is to be part of a larger system, thus making many of the workarounds that have been suggested untenable). Thanks again for your replies, JR Schmidt